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February 14, 2007 at 4:32 pm #6517

Symo

Been reading and enjoying this site for a long while and now have a question of my own! WooHoo… :D

I’m making up a peninsular which will house 3 built-under appliances. I’m making the housings from 28mm end panels.

My question is, the appliances all call for a 600mm opening. My appliance doors are 597mm wide. Does this mean that the appliances doors don’t fit against the frame, in the way normal doors do, but have a small, 2-3mm, gap all the way round?

Thanks in advance

Symo

February 14, 2007 at 4:33 pm #6518

Symo

Can’t edit the post.

I meant a 1 – 1.5mm gap all round!

February 15, 2007 at 9:59 am #6519

timfoley

Symo,
I suppose the best way to answer this is to show you the pictures. Below are two links to images of a kitchen I designed and installed facing the same issue that you described.
To overcome this I had the appliance doors manufactured to overlap the end panel between in order to close the gap and give the illusion that they were in fact normal cupboards. In this case the aperture for both the washer and dryer were 600mm and an 18mm panel was used on the the hinge side. The two appliances were seperated by an 18mm panel to avoid bowing of the worksurface and to act as a closure for each door.
Using a calculation that doors are 3mm less in width than the cupboard the doors were sized at 624mm (18mm hinge end panel + 600mm aperture + 9mm) The 9mm refers to half the separating panels width.
The appliances in this case were freestanding and I did have the luxury of utilising extra depth so the plinth could also align with adjacent cupboards and normal hinges could be used but the same rule could apply to integrated appliances.
Don’t forget though, that an integrated applance incorporates the closing hinge mechanism and attaches to the door. This being the case, they will not require a hinge side panel so the door size would reduce in the same configuration to 606mm for each door.
Wow! I surprised myself with my mathematical prowess here. Think I’ll go for a lie down – it took me longer than Einstein took to form his theory of relativity.
Hope this helps Symo.

http://www.kitchensfitted.co.uk/BigPhot … oor/02.jpg

http://www.kitchensfitted.co.uk/BigPhot … oor/02.jpg

February 15, 2007 at 2:03 pm #6523

Symo

Thanks Tim, nice work there!

Unfortunately, made to measure doors would cost a lot I guess?

I’m building the carcases like this…

The uprights are 28mm end panel material. Im going to make the spacing at 599mm which is the least I can get away with and the doors are 597mm width. This will leave 1mm all round and give the door a fitted in look rather than fitted on, if you see what I mean?
I will cut back the two center uprights so that the plinth will be one piece.

the peninsular is a fair way from any other units so I hope it will look OK? What do you think?

Thanks

Matt

February 15, 2007 at 2:15 pm #6524

timfoley

Matt,
I do see what look you are trying to achieve here and as the chunky 28mm panels will, as I understand from your post, be flush with the doors, they will appear as divider columns to create an innovative finish.
Yes I think it will work and look great.
Good Luck and let us know how you go on with this, perhaps even upload an image when it’s complete.

February 15, 2007 at 2:47 pm #6526

Symo

Thanks Tim. I’ll put some pics up when I’ve finished. Hoping to make a start this weekend but, you know how things go! :lol:

Symo

February 22, 2007 at 3:10 pm #6535

lkj

Tim, i’m not quite sure of what you mean in this instance. But in general perhaps, to help visualise your explanations, a few hand drawn sketches in plan, section or even isometric would help. Just a suggestion

February 28, 2007 at 12:04 am #6536

timfoley

lkj,
You’re correct of course but although I’m a Salfordian, I’m afraid I ain’t no Lowry and even if I were I’d have a problem conveying this with a matchstick diagram. To answer another recent post and to try and convey advice more clearly I am in the process of authoring a book which will contain clear illustrations drawn up by a clear illustrator.
When it’s available and I hope it will be not too long, I will announce it on our forum.

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