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September 12, 2005 at 10:14 pm #6024

smithybora

I am about to insatll a Fridge/Frezzer

and washer.

First of all i thought they are installed into cabinets. Just had a look and the 3 are not. It

looks like they are just inserted and the doors screw onto them and then the plinth

covers the bottom. Is this right.

Also i have read on here as well. That the back of of installed units need to be clear so they can be flush unless the

unit stick out over the 600mm of the work tops. Is this right. I

have sockets on the wall to plug them into and also

the waste pipe for the washer. As all 3 Applanices are in line. I can not move the waste pipe as it in line going out of the

house

behind the units.

Hope you get this. Sorry if its long winded. Just trying to get a grip with it

all.

Thanks.

September 13, 2005 at 10:32 am #6025

timfoley

If they are integrated appliances,

which I suspect they are by

your post, then you are correct in your assumption.
My best advice is to follow the

manufacturing instructions for the fixing of doors, plinth etc and these should include a template for ease of fixing of the

door to the appliance.

With regard to services at the rear of the appliance, it is better for sockets to be fitted in

an adjacent cabinet or to ensure that any services spanning the area behind do not

impede the appliance sitting flush

with adjacent cabinets. Generally this would mean that all services are fitted tight to the wall and do not exceed a height of

150mm from the floor

for most integrated appliances.

Integrated washing mahines present more of a challenge as

they tend to allow for little, if any, room at the rear if using a standard 600mm worktop. One solution to overcome the

problem that services behind integrated appliances present, is to fit a deeper worktop to accomodate them easier and

you might consider this as an option.

Hope this helps you,

Tim.
present

September 13, 2005 at 7:35 pm #6026

smithybora

Thanks for the advice.

I got all the unit to fit today. It

was hard work.

Read some posts that some people lift the unit up higher. (the Fridge/Frezzer and the washer) to get

the height required to the same level of the other units. Is this what you do

sometimes.

Also the intergrated

units. Are not in wood cabinets. They are just boxed in with the door and plinth. How do you support the work top over these.

I am placing the 3 in a row and

worried about a bow the work top would produce as there is no support. Only at the

back and sides. And your talking 1800mm in total for no support at the front. Any ideas.

Also its pullin gmy hair out

trying to mark out the new door holes on a cabinet for the washer. The intructions are. Think they are all Indiset

units.

Thaks again for all you help. All taken on board.

Role on tomorrow.

Tony

September 14, 2005 at 4:52 pm #6029

timfoley

Tony,

The

integrated applainces should, apart from your washing machine, have the facility to raise the appliance to the same height as

the base units and the washer can be raised by

fitting a suitable sized plinth tray beneath, consider a worktop offcut

if suitably sized. Integrated appliances such as the ones you describe, are stand alone and are not housed in a

cabinet.
The difficulty is that as most manufacturers make standard sized doors, fitting an end support panel

between each appliance will greatly increase the gap between each door which is

not from an aesthetical perspective,

very attractive. You can support this at the rear using a batten or a number of angle brackets fitted directly beneath the

worktop but again the

span you describe may be too wide to stop the worktop from bowing.

An alternative to

resolve this that I have utilised before is to order the doors wider to accommodate the end supports, but this is a luxury

only afforded you if you are able to have

your doors made to your specified width.

The solution for you may be

here somewhere and may involve redesignating an appliance elsewhere in the kitchen. It may also be that you take a chance on

fitting them side by side

supported at the rear but just be mindful of the consequences if the worktop is to be

utilised for heavy use.

As for the washing mahine hinge holes, they will have to be drilled to suit the centres of the

appliance hinges after fitting and you should have been provided with a template for

this.

June 2, 2006 at 1:08 am #6361

timfoley

As a follow up to this post, I have included an example of how

a freestanding washing machine can be integrated into a design using made to measure doors.
By the way, the reflection on

the fridge is me. This is no surprise given it’s the one place in a house I’m most likely to be at any one time and it was

me who ate all the pies.

http://www.kitchensfitted.co.uk/KitchenInspiration/BeechDoor/02.jpg

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