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December 20, 2005 at 8:40 pm #6176

davide

This website is certainly the most helpful resource I’ve found so far in my extensive web searching –

some credit where it is due by way of introducing my first post.

Now down to the reason for the post – a couple of

questions.

1. I am in the process of hanging kitchen wall cabinets from a well-known DIY retailer. Having followed

their instructions on the positioning of the wall support brackets relative to the intended top position of the cabinet, I am

somewhat alarmed by how far out the cabinet is when it is first offered up to the wall. At first hanging, the cabinet sits

some 2 cm low, despite the fixings being bang-on accurate on the wall, within 0.5mm. What is the typical adjustment range that

these height-adjusters are designed to offer? Is it normal to find the cabinet this far out and to have to adjust it this much

to raise the cabinet to the correct wall height? As an aside, I have tried to adjust the height using the adjusters and have

got most of the way there, but the screws seem very hard to turn. I never know whether that is ‘just how it is’, or whether

I am approaching the limit of the adjustment offered by the adjuster. I am still a couple of mm low and the adjuster is now so

stiff I am struggling to be able to turn the adjuster screws. It doesn’t help that the only screwdriver that fits (based on

screw head size) is shorter than the depth of the cabinet and hence awkward to grip – I can’t get enough purchase and the

adjustment now needs some considerable force. Are these adjusters usually very stiff to adjust?

2. If you are starting

with a bare room, newly chipboard-floored, as mine is, does the flooring (finished) have to go down first, or can flooring be

added later? We haven’t decided whether to go for laminate flooring, or even something like a wood effect flooring made of a

lino-type material (both options clearly have very differing thicknesses). Partly because of not knowing what colour or

flooring type will look best until the kitchen is fitted. I’m assuming it is OK to fit the kitchen first, then add flooring

later and run it under the cabinets. Since the height of the feet of the base cabinets have to be initially set to the depth

of the intended plinth (at this point the cabinet is sat on just the chipboard flooring), fitting a deeper floor covering

later, like laminate, will necessitate reducing the height of the plinth to make it fit – is this OK or entirely frowned

upon?

Thanks in anticipation of some comments.

December 21, 2005 at 9:38 am #6177

jono

Davide

Hope I can assist….

1. Wall cabinets usually are designed so that the ‘claw’ adjuster is

horizontal (in middle of travel) to give correct height positioning. Check that the claw is actually engaged on the wall

bracket. I once had a similar problem only to discover that the top of the cabinet was sitting on the wall bracket!!!!

2. It is not a good idea to cut plinths.
If you know the make up of the floor type you want to use then you should

add that to the plinth height and set the base cabinst to allow for it.

Jon

December 21, 2005 at 10:24 am #6178

davide

OK…thanks Jon for the info.

Do you know what is inside one of these

height adjuster things? Some kind of opposing-wedge affair I’m assuming? I think mine are sloping down considerably (not

horizontal) at this point, when the cabinet is almost level, suggesting the initial measurements for positioning the brackets

given in the installation leaflet is wrong. The one potential saving grace is that having never done a kitchen before, I’ve

only drilled the holes for that one cabinet so far, so I’ve got chance to position the other brackets for the other cabinets

at a different height.

I’m not sure we can avoid trimming the plinths as we would have to decide now on the flooring

material.

Another question: I have a full-height larder cabinet, and across the two-metres or so of its end panel

vertical span there is some considerable variation in wall contour – maybe a gap of about 5mm at the worst point whilst at one

point the end panel is snug up to the wall. I noticed in Tim’s installation guide you are supposed to use a compass to scribe

the wall profile onto the cabinet end panel and then cut it to match, thus eliminating any gaps when re-offering it up to the

wall. My end panels are colour-matched laminate – won’t this splinter off if I try to plane the back edge or cut it in any

way?

December 21, 2005 at 10:33 am #6179

jono

David

1. I suggest that witht he wall cabinets

you set the ‘claw’ level and then remeasure the distance to the top of the cabinet. Use this as you setting out

dimension.

2. Why not make an allowance for flooring. Tiles and wooden flooring are about the same thickness. And if

you go foe vinyl you can always overlay the chipboard to make up the difference.

3. Are you going to tile the wall or

paint? Personally I would fill the gap with builders chaulking and paint to match the wall. 5mm is nothing.

Jon

December 22, 2005 at 2:22 pm #6181

timfoley

First of

all,

Thanks Jono for your contribution on this post.

Davide, I agree with Jono’s advice here and a 5mm gap is

acceptable enough not to scribe back to the wall.
Builders or painters caulk is a good solution here for filling the gap

and as it is paintable, the cabinet to wall space will be not be visible.
Plinth – as Jono states, make sufficient

allowance for depth of the flooring and fit after floor finish installation. Fit flooring up to the feet of the cabinets and

inside any freestanding appliance apertures.
Wall hangers – I find it best method to hold the bracket up to the hangerset

to a mid-adjustment level and to then measure down from the top of the cupboard to the bracket holes. Transfer this

measurement, which will remain consisitent for all your cupboards, to the wall.
Premarking these on the wall, both vertical

and horizontal heights will make the job easier.
Allowing 20-25mm from the vertical edge of each cabinet will ensure the

hanger locates on to the bracket.

Good Luck

Tim.

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