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July 13, 2004 at 9:44 am #5458

mikeb

Great site – although I think I

found it too late as I have already had my kitchen cabinets delivered from the company that attracts. I can only read through your site content and think what might have been had I

done a bit of research.

Anyway, having returned units to the supplier, had replacements and returned some of those also, I’m still waiting for the full order to be completed. What disturbs me about the

whole issue is that I the customer am expected to accept units that should not have even passed through quality control let alone be delivered, and that the problems the company have

with damage incurred during transport is something that I the customer should not even be bothered with. I just want pristine cabinets delivered like the ones I viewed in the show

rooms. What I don’t want is damaged side panels re-used in draw units to hide the damage; glue runs that could have been wiped off; holes that are never going to be utilised drilled

in panels and holes drilled with blunt tools that leave chips around the edges etc etc. None of which should have left the factory had there been any quality system in place. Maybe

all that’s required is a quality system to check on the quality system… Do I expect too much? Am I being unfair? Yes, I do feel pretty frustrated about the whole deal but life goes

on…

I have now fitted a corner wall cabinet and cabinets either side – had to re-arrange cabinets because the design had wall fixings for two cabinets meeting right in the middle of a

power outlet – how the designer missed that one I don’t know. What I do know is, like most things, until you actually have a go you never really know what is involved which in turn

gives an appreciation of the skills employed by professional installers. This is definitely a learning exercise and with plenty of long pondering gazes at the canvass that is going

to be my kitchen and hours spent discussing all points, major, minor, or irrelevant with anybody who will listen, I feel confident that I shall complete this project successfully –

definitely by the end of this year…probably…

And so to my first question – the kitchen design includes 900mm wall units originally with a 5mm gap intended between cornice and ceiling. I now feel that because of an uneven

ceiling a larger gap, say 20-30mm will better hide these irregularities – I think…?

Next question is on the subject of uneven walls, can you give any advice on packing out wall cabinets? The last cabinet in a run from one side of my corner unit ends up about 10mm

out because of an uneven wall. I am trying to pack out, using hardboard, starting from the corner unit and going both left and right to hopefully spread the discrepancy and end up

with a lesser but more even gap at the ends of both runs. Am I over complicating this issue – should I just live with the 10mm gap at one end and pack that cabinet? Am I making any

sense whatsoever?

My last question (for now) is how is the cornice fitted when so close to the ceiling, would it have to be drilled and screwed from within the cabinet below or is there a better way?

I do hope that I haven’t bored you all too much thus far – but I certainly feel better for my ramblings.

MikeB

July 17, 2004 at 10:26 am #5459

timfoley

Thanks for the kind comments Mike. The site and forum has the

benefit of some expert contributions from a number of professionals and it all serves to assist those who may require it.

Sorry to hear that you’ve suffered problems with you’re supplier and you’re right to expect a quality finish to your cabinetry. What disturbs me is that a company feels it can

still largely ignore the consistent complaints posted by customers in an age when potential future customers are able to view them so easily on the internet before choosing their

kitchen.

You speak of your project as a canvass and your approach to the task ahead is from an artistic perspective. This, I believe is the only way to fit your kitchen successfully and those

long pondering gazes will identify a method rather than a solution had you forged ahead without thought.

Your first question relating to cornice is answered by yourself in the same paragraph. The closer the cornice is to the ceiling, the greater it will accentuate the uneveness of the

surface. Making the gap greater is the right method.

As for your wall cabinets, a 10mm gap, if able to be accommodated by your wall hanging brackets, can be concealed by using an extended wall panel planted on the visible end. If this

requires a greater depth than is a standard wall end panel, use a base end panel. Wedge the top and bottom of the affected adjacent units to ensure vertical level, rigidity and linear

alignment.

When fitting cornice close to the ceiling you will have to drill, countersink and screw from the cabinet interior. Matching cover caps will help disguise the fixings.

Hope this helps and we look forward to updates on your progress.

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